Libretto pregeo errore semiasse 0.00

luca-cecchetto · 18 Maggio 2022, 4:08pm

Buon pomeriggio, è da poco che uso il gps e sto elaborando un tipo mappale avendo usato la funzione punto nascosto nel rover del gps leica, scaricando il rilievo e importandolo in pregeo vedo che gli errori dei semiassi sono 0. 000 come gli sqm vi chiedo dove può essere l’inghippo, allego libretto grazie.

0|27042022|4|D107|0080|985,991,997| |GEOMETRA|VICENZA|
9|47|10|20|1450|PREGEO 10.00-G,APAG 2.12|MC|Nota: |
1|1000|4373545.480,878921.810,4543605.430|0.000|[WGS84-ETRF2000]|
6|L2|27042022-12:32|27042002-12:32|RTK|PDOP=2|
2|100|8392.002,12581.369,-10708.908|0.000060200,0.000008944,0.000016429,0.000020117,0.000015761,0.000072916,2.070380688|PDOP=2|0.000|CHIOD
2|PF08/0080/D107|8504.383,12740.568,-10850.743|0.000089313,0.000011752,0.000044574,0.000022479,0.000016295,0.000095640,2.140214920|PDOP=3|
2|PF14/0070/D107|8621.133,11946.694,-10804.535|0.000207576,0.000072597,0.000200142,0.000045079,0.000079787,0.000232734,1.536174893|PDOP=5|
2|1001|8396.323,12588.784,-10714.722|0.000074377,0.000015819,0.000065012,0.000020629,0.000019199,0.000093773,2.117601633|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1002|8409.559,12611.177,-10731.771|0.000073623,0.000015465,0.000064022,0.000020518,0.000018735,0.000092527,1.494913220|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1003|8402.386,12574.190,-10717.366|0.000221088,-0.000061603,0.000087278,0.000076105,0.000019015,0.000106334,1.692195415|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1004|8407.564,12580.918,-10723.531|0.000136211,0.000002080,0.000091292,0.000021167,0.000009291,0.000100236,2.613799572|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1005|8424.616,12593.334,-10743.510|0.000065814,0.000009428,0.000049596,0.000019196,0.000010417,0.000072138,1.320992589|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1006|8392.157,12581.612,-10709.127|0.000164773,0.000006017,0.000157501,0.000021016,0.000014091,0.000223734,1.952832222|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1007|8406.289,12568.433,-10720.240|0.000059424,0.000007424,0.000037313,0.000010693,0.000003707,0.000058588,1.549226522|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1008|8408.146,12570.905,-10722.509|0.000078723,0.000007757,0.000045775,0.000010701,0.000003825,0.000062378,1.628624678|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1009|8396.437,12578.636,-10712.651|0.000078512,0.000005933,0.000054771,0.000011849,-0.000003459,0.000104894,2.338360310|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1010|8395.482,12580.453,-10711.974|0.000077540,0.000005894,0.000054307,0.000011865,-0.000003668,0.000105724,2.075972795|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1011|8397.958,12588.328,-10716.001|0.000085544,0.000021948,0.000054736,0.000022748,0.000015506,0.000082554,1.965470076|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1012|8397.262,12587.816,-10715.064|0.000069327,0.000009900,0.000042563,0.000013389,0.000006314,0.000074495,1.560443044|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1013|8411.223,12584.916,-10727.846|0.000098932,0.000008576,0.000035974,0.000017005,0.000005516,0.000081213,4.640303612|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1014|8410.678,12586.134,-10727.566|0.000064210,0.000007715,0.000035435,0.000011339,0.000000969,0.000066740,2.019888878|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1015|8401.189,12591.074,-10719.383|0.000076819,0.000020396,0.000051653,0.000022160,0.000016319,0.000096114,1.552555561|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1016|8399.781,12589.723,-10718.227|0.000076581,0.000020369,0.000051595,0.000022154,0.000016396,0.000096820,2.902915001|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|PF02/0080/D107|8325.553,12489.730,-10626.644|0.000177753,-0.000000750,-0.000101433,0.000032096,0.000079647,0.000541808,1.178607464|PDOP=
2|1017|8395.208,12581.732,-10711.958|0.000061536,0.000009820,-0.000013716,0.000017644,0.000004252,0.000138169,1.784027934|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1018|8394.772,12583.812,-10711.902|0.000061565,0.000009724,-0.000013794,0.000017639,0.000004346,0.000138673,2.052170277|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1019|8409.757,12583.195,-10726.089|0.000282558,-0.000032825,0.000081540,0.000025240,-0.000006311,0.000069564,1.278252006|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1020|8410.865,12585.314,-10727.522|0.000280706,-0.000032403,0.000081715,0.000025105,-0.000006205,0.000069693,1.301425457|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1021|8405.057,12594.900,-10723.849|0.000076184,0.000015276,0.000035044,0.000019574,0.000008353,0.000055882,1.505292177|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1022|8403.714,12593.982,-10722.394|0.000076151,0.000015438,0.000035001,0.000019679,0.000008626,0.000056118,1.313585401|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1023|8397.767,12586.284,-10715.214|0.000096517,0.000047341,0.000074253,0.000068800,0.000072147,0.000181873,1.062968016|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1024|8396.501,12586.437,-10714.037|0.000076279,0.000016337,0.000037871,0.000020754,0.000015873,0.000114310,2.004049540|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1025|8397.057,12587.345,-10714.545|0.000137237,0.000061336,0.000102054,0.000055224,0.000047851,0.000111696,2.875049591|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1026|8398.780,12588.806,-10716.579|0.000136847,0.000061317,0.000100986,0.000055501,0.000047325,0.000110292,1.754263759|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1027|8398.226,12588.392,-10716.387|0.000064380,0.000002321,0.000028029,0.000015873,0.000020127,0.000096127,2.144035816|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1028|8396.833,12586.433,-10714.343|0.000051869,0.000004394,0.000027751,0.000015534,0.000020203,0.000095947,2.884444475|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1029|8398.760,12589.520,-10717.197|0.000065317,0.000002966,0.000029925,0.000015656,0.000019984,0.000095162,2.153017521|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1030|8399.691,12591.109,-10718.379|0.000065435,0.000003049,0.000030159,0.000015624,0.000019959,0.000095008,2.084317684|PDOP=3|0.000|
4|1010|1009|-50|S|
5|1|3.420|0.000|
4|1009|1|0|
5|1|2.914|0.000|
4|1012|1011|50|S|
5|2|2.201|0.000|
4|1011|2|0|
5|2|1.963|0.000|
4|1014|1013|50|S|
5|3|0.926|0.000|
4|1013|3|0|
5|3|1.351|0.000|
4|1016|1015|50|S|
5|4|2.290|0.000|
4|1015|4|0|
5|4|2.071|0.000|
4|1018|1017|-50|S|
5|5|1.960|0.000|
4|1017|5|0|
5|5|1.910|0.000|
4|1020|1019|50|S|
5|6|2.986|0.000|
4|1019|6|0|
5|6|4.077|0.000|
4|1022|1021|50|S|
5|7|1.599|0.000|
4|1021|7|0|
5|7|1.856|0.000|
4|1024|1023|50|S|
5|8|5.762|0.000|
4|1023|8|0|
5|8|4.242|0.000|
4|1026|1025|-50|S|
5|9|3.699|0.000|
4|1025|9|0|
5|9|3.611|0.000|
4|1028|1027|50|S|
5|10|3.648|0.000|
4|1027|10|0|
5|10|3.262|0.000|
4|1030|1029|-50|S|
5|11|3.543|0.000|
4|1029|11|0|
5|11|4.075|0.000|
4|1003|1004|0|S Allineamento facciata fabbr.|
5|12|10.49|-0.6|Spigolo fabbricato|
5|13|10.49|-2.90|Spigolo fabbricato|
8|PF02/0080/D107|-70.911000|1385.762000|52|SPIGOLO NORD-EST FABBRICATO|
8|PF02/0080/D107|73.038000|04|QUOTA MARCIAPIEDE|
8|PF14/0070/D107|-336.450000|803.323000|50|SPIGOLO RECINZIONE IN CLS|
8|PF14/0070/D107|71.259000|04|PIANO SUPERIORE MURETTA DI RECINZIONE|
8|PF08/0080/D107|-399.753000|1605.089000|50|INCROCI MAPPALI 304 392 311|
8|PF08/0080/D107|43.471000|04|2004122136 PIANO DI PARAGONE QUOTA BASE MURETTA|

RISULTATI:
Compensazione Planimetrica
Rilievo eseguito con n=11 osservazioni sovrabbondanti Punti della Rete
nome nord sqm est 1000 14925.027 +/-0.000 -9247.087 +/-0.000 0.000 PF08/0080/D107 -393.667 +/-0.000 1601.029 +/-0.000 0.000 PF14/0070/D107 -333.085 +/-0.000 799.582 +/-0.000 0.000 PF02/0080/D107 -76.753 +/-0.000 1389.658 +/-0.000 0.000 100 -193.589 +/-0.000 1466.660 +/-0.000 0.000 1003 -205.790 +/-0.000 1457.602 +/-0.000 0.000 1004 -214.665 +/-0.000 1463.197 +/-0.000 0.000 1009 -198.938 +/-0.000 1463.118 +/-0.000 0.000 1010 -198.047 +/-0.000 1465.086 +/-0.000 0.000 1011 -203.691 +/-0.000 1472.331 +/-0.000 0.000 1012 -202.477 +/-0.000 1471.963 +/-0.000 0.000 1013 -220.803 +/-0.000 1466.408 +/-0.000 0.000 1014 -220.394 +/-0.000 1467.709 +/-0.000 0.000 1015 -208.703 +/-0.000 1474.397 +/-0.000 0.000 1016 -206.720 +/-0.000 1473.346 +/-0.000 0.000 1017 -198.021 +/-0.000 1466.393 +/-0.000 0.000 1018 -197.964 +/-0.000 1468.518 +/-0.000 0.000 1019 -218.307 +/-0.000 1465.005 +/-0.000 0.000 1020 -220.380 +/-0.000 1466.868 +/-0.000 0.000 1021 -215.069 +/-0.000 1477.399 +/-0.000 0.000 1022 -212.983 +/-0.000 1476.759 +/-0.000 0.000 1023 -202.723 +/-0.000 1470.362 +/-0.000 0.000 1024 -201.034 +/-0.000 1470.758 +/-0.000 0.000 1025 -201.905 +/-0.000 1471.540 +/-0.000 0.000 1026 -204.738 +/-0.000 1472.639 +/-0.000 0.000 1027 -204.158 +/-0.000 1472.342 +/-0.000 0.000 1028 -201.480 +/-0.000 1470.689 +/-0.000 0.000 1029 -205.256 +/-0.000 1473.345 +/-0.000 0.000 1030 -206.955 +/-0.000 1474.723 +/-0.000 0.000 1 -201.435 +/-0.000 1464.620 +/-0.000 0.000 2 -204.022 +/-0.000 1470.396 +/-0.000 0.000 3 -219.665 +/-0.000 1467.137 +/-0.000 0.000 4 -208.771 +/-0.000 1472.327 +/-0.000 0.000 5 -199.610 +/-0.000 1467.453 +/-0.000 0.000 6 -218.376 +/-0.000 1469.081 +/-0.000 0.000 7 -214.221 +/-0.000 1475.748 +/-0.000 0.000 8 -205.602 +/-0.000 1467.246 +/-0.000 0.000 9 -204.425 +/-0.000 1468.954 +/-0.000 0.000 10 -204.783 +/-0.000 1469.140 +/-0.000 0.000 11 -209.054 +/-0.000 1471.868 +/-0.000 0.000 Punti di Dettaglio
1001 -201.714 +/-0.015 1473.096 +/-0.015 0.021 1002 -226.024 +/-0.013 1492.494 +/-0.014 0.019 1005 -242.317 +/-0.015 1472.070 +/-0.011 0.016 1006 -193.885 +/-0.016 1466.868 +/-0.016 0.023 1007 -209.738 +/-0.014 1451.197 +/-0.013 0.019 1008 -212.970 +/-0.015 1453.262 +/-0.013 0.019 12 -214.344 +/-0.025 1463.703 +/-0.018 0.031 13 -213.117 +/-0.021 1465.649 +/-0.023 0.031 r> 0.35542
0.00000
0.00000
0.02945
sqm semiasseMax semiasseMin inclinazione
0.000 138.292
0.000 135.290
0.000 113.909
0.000 43.912
0.000 45.522
0.000 57.326
0.000 78.937
0.000 56.508
0.000 70.531
0.000 70.037
0.000 50.437
0.000 97.002
0.000 91.503
0.000 70.997
0.000 117.162
0.000 91.125
0.000 120.037
0.000 85.892
0.000 88.905
0.000 67.927
0.000 58.769
0.000 58.723
0.000 96.746
0.000 122.927
0.000 74.425
0.000 42.211
0.000 43.015
0.000 41.152
0.000 40.962
0.000 14.420
0.000 130.273
0.000 24.834
0.000 131.875
0.000 0.918
0.000 121.110
0.000 111.389
0.000 152.706
0.000 119.551
0.000 140.600
0.000 158.587
0.002 49.210
0.002 49.133
0.010 80.790
0.004 49.573
0.000 149.721
0.003 145.980
0.000 60.554
0.000 47.023

gianni-rossi · 18 Maggio 2022, 7:33pm

Ciao Luca e benvenuto sul forum (qui ci diamo tutti del tu, ok?).
Occhio che nel fare il copia/incolla del libretto Pregeo hai troncato la parte finale delle prime righe 2 dopo le righe 1 e 6 per cui non viene caricato in Pregeo. L’ho sistemato io, il libretto corretto è quello che vedi qui sotto. N.B.: se ti capita di postare altri libretti, dopo aver fatto il copia/incolla seleziona tutte le righe e poi clicca su questa icona della barra sopra all’editor:

in questo modo il testo è molto più leggibile, le righe vanno a tutta lunghezza (senza andare a capo) e appaiono le barre di scorrimento.

0|27042022|4|D107|0080|985,991,997| |GEOMETRA|VICENZA|
9|47|10|20|1450|PREGEO 10.00-G,APAG 2.12|MC|Nota: |
1|1000|4373545.480,878921.810,4543605.430|0.000|[WGS84-ETRF2000]|
6|L2|27042022-12:32|27042002-12:32|RTK|PDOP=2|
2|100|8392.002,12581.369,-10708.908|0.000060200,0.000008944,0.000016429,0.000020117,0.000015761,0.000072916,2.070380688|PDOP=2|0.000|CHIODO|
2|PF08/0080/D107|8504.383,12740.568,-10850.743|0.000089313,0.000011752,0.000044574,0.000022479,0.000016295,0.000095640,2.140214920|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|PF14/0070/D107|8621.133,11946.694,-10804.535|0.000207576,0.000072597,0.000200142,0.000045079,0.000079787,0.000232734,1.536174893|PDOP=5|0.000|
2|1001|8396.323,12588.784,-10714.722|0.000074377,0.000015819,0.000065012,0.000020629,0.000019199,0.000093773,2.117601633|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1002|8409.559,12611.177,-10731.771|0.000073623,0.000015465,0.000064022,0.000020518,0.000018735,0.000092527,1.494913220|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1003|8402.386,12574.190,-10717.366|0.000221088,-0.000061603,0.000087278,0.000076105,0.000019015,0.000106334,1.692195415|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1004|8407.564,12580.918,-10723.531|0.000136211,0.000002080,0.000091292,0.000021167,0.000009291,0.000100236,2.613799572|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1005|8424.616,12593.334,-10743.510|0.000065814,0.000009428,0.000049596,0.000019196,0.000010417,0.000072138,1.320992589|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1006|8392.157,12581.612,-10709.127|0.000164773,0.000006017,0.000157501,0.000021016,0.000014091,0.000223734,1.952832222|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1007|8406.289,12568.433,-10720.240|0.000059424,0.000007424,0.000037313,0.000010693,0.000003707,0.000058588,1.549226522|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1008|8408.146,12570.905,-10722.509|0.000078723,0.000007757,0.000045775,0.000010701,0.000003825,0.000062378,1.628624678|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1009|8396.437,12578.636,-10712.651|0.000078512,0.000005933,0.000054771,0.000011849,-0.000003459,0.000104894,2.338360310|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1010|8395.482,12580.453,-10711.974|0.000077540,0.000005894,0.000054307,0.000011865,-0.000003668,0.000105724,2.075972795|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1011|8397.958,12588.328,-10716.001|0.000085544,0.000021948,0.000054736,0.000022748,0.000015506,0.000082554,1.965470076|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1012|8397.262,12587.816,-10715.064|0.000069327,0.000009900,0.000042563,0.000013389,0.000006314,0.000074495,1.560443044|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1013|8411.223,12584.916,-10727.846|0.000098932,0.000008576,0.000035974,0.000017005,0.000005516,0.000081213,4.640303612|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1014|8410.678,12586.134,-10727.566|0.000064210,0.000007715,0.000035435,0.000011339,0.000000969,0.000066740,2.019888878|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1015|8401.189,12591.074,-10719.383|0.000076819,0.000020396,0.000051653,0.000022160,0.000016319,0.000096114,1.552555561|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1016|8399.781,12589.723,-10718.227|0.000076581,0.000020369,0.000051595,0.000022154,0.000016396,0.000096820,2.902915001|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|PF02/0080/D107|8325.553,12489.730,-10626.644|0.000177753,-0.000000750,-0.000101433,0.000032096,0.000079647,0.000541808,1.178607464|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1017|8395.208,12581.732,-10711.958|0.000061536,0.000009820,-0.000013716,0.000017644,0.000004252,0.000138169,1.784027934|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1018|8394.772,12583.812,-10711.902|0.000061565,0.000009724,-0.000013794,0.000017639,0.000004346,0.000138673,2.052170277|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1019|8409.757,12583.195,-10726.089|0.000282558,-0.000032825,0.000081540,0.000025240,-0.000006311,0.000069564,1.278252006|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1020|8410.865,12585.314,-10727.522|0.000280706,-0.000032403,0.000081715,0.000025105,-0.000006205,0.000069693,1.301425457|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1021|8405.057,12594.900,-10723.849|0.000076184,0.000015276,0.000035044,0.000019574,0.000008353,0.000055882,1.505292177|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1022|8403.714,12593.982,-10722.394|0.000076151,0.000015438,0.000035001,0.000019679,0.000008626,0.000056118,1.313585401|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1023|8397.767,12586.284,-10715.214|0.000096517,0.000047341,0.000074253,0.000068800,0.000072147,0.000181873,1.062968016|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1024|8396.501,12586.437,-10714.037|0.000076279,0.000016337,0.000037871,0.000020754,0.000015873,0.000114310,2.004049540|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1025|8397.057,12587.345,-10714.545|0.000137237,0.000061336,0.000102054,0.000055224,0.000047851,0.000111696,2.875049591|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1026|8398.780,12588.806,-10716.579|0.000136847,0.000061317,0.000100986,0.000055501,0.000047325,0.000110292,1.754263759|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1027|8398.226,12588.392,-10716.387|0.000064380,0.000002321,0.000028029,0.000015873,0.000020127,0.000096127,2.144035816|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1028|8396.833,12586.433,-10714.343|0.000051869,0.000004394,0.000027751,0.000015534,0.000020203,0.000095947,2.884444475|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1029|8398.760,12589.520,-10717.197|0.000065317,0.000002966,0.000029925,0.000015656,0.000019984,0.000095162,2.153017521|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1030|8399.691,12591.109,-10718.379|0.000065435,0.000003049,0.000030159,0.000015624,0.000019959,0.000095008,2.084317684|PDOP=3|0.000|
4|1010|1009|-50|S|
5|1|3.420|0.000|
4|1009|1|0|S|
5|1|2.914|0.000|
4|1012|1011|50|S|
5|2|2.201|0.000|
4|1011|2|0|S|
5|2|1.963|0.000|
4|1014|1013|50|S|
5|3|0.926|0.000|
4|1013|3|0|S|
5|3|1.351|0.000|
4|1016|1015|50|S|
5|4|2.290|0.000|
4|1015|4|0|S|
5|4|2.071|0.000|
4|1018|1017|-50|S|
5|5|1.960|0.000|
4|1017|5|0|S|
5|5|1.910|0.000|
4|1020|1019|50|S|
5|6|2.986|0.000|
4|1019|6|0|S|
5|6|4.077|0.000|
4|1022|1021|50|S|
5|7|1.599|0.000|
4|1021|7|0|S|
5|7|1.856|0.000|
4|1024|1023|50|S|
5|8|5.762|0.000|
4|1023|8|0|S|
5|8|4.242|0.000|
4|1026|1025|-50|S|
5|9|3.699|0.000|
4|1025|9|0|S|
5|9|3.611|0.000|
4|1028|1027|50|S|
5|10|3.648|0.000|
4|1027|10|0|S|
5|10|3.262|0.000|
4|1030|1029|-50|S|
5|11|3.543|0.000|
4|1029|11|0|S|
5|11|4.075|0.000|
4|1003|1004|0|S Allineamento facciata fabbr.|
5|12|10.49|-0.6|Spigolo fabbricato|
5|13|10.49|-2.90|Spigolo fabbricato|
8|PF08/0080/D107|-399.753000|1605.089000|50|INCROCI MAPPALI 304 392 311|
8|PF14/0070/D107|-336.450000|803.323000|50|SPIGOLO RECINZIONE IN CLS|
8|PF14/0070/D107|71.259000|04|PIANO SUPERIORE MURETTA DI RECINZIONE|
8|PF02/0080/D107|-70.911000|1385.762000|52|SPIGOLO NORD-EST FABBRICATO|
8|PF02/0080/D107|73.038000|04|QUOTA MARCIAPIEDE|

Elaborandolo in Pregeo, mi dà l’errore:

ATTENZIONE il PF08/0080/D107 e’ stato rilevato altimetricamente ma non è definito altimetrico nella TAF

che comunque riguarda solo l’approvazione automatica e non il calcolo.
In effetti i risultati sono con tutti gli sqm e ellissi pari a zero, cosa che non mi era mai capitata. Anzi, come ti dicevo, con Pregeo normalmente succede il contrario, cioè che mostra sqm ed ellissi anche sui punti isolati (non iperdeterminati).

 Compensazione Planimetrica
Rilievo eseguito con n=11 osservazioni sovrabbondanti
s.q.m. dell'unita' di peso a priori        9.49609
s.q.m. dell'unita' di peso a posteriori    0.00000
s.q.m. dell'unita' di peso interna         0.00000
s.q.m. dell'unita' di peso esterna         0.00104
Numero di cicli di compensazione 7
Punti della Rete
nome                  nord    sqm         est     sqm   semiasseMax semiasseMin inclinazione
1000             14924.902 +/-0.000  -9246.879 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.214
PF08/0080/D107    -393.790 +/-0.000   1601.111 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        162.645
PF02/0080/D107     -76.876 +/-0.000   1389.741 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        162.477
PF14/0070/D107    -333.204 +/-0.000    799.666 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         21.628
100               -193.712 +/-0.000   1466.743 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.257
1003              -205.912 +/-0.000   1457.684 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.176
1004              -214.788 +/-0.000   1463.279 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.139
1009              -199.060 +/-0.000   1463.201 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.390
1010              -198.169 +/-0.000   1465.168 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.814
1011              -203.814 +/-0.000   1472.413 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.245
1012              -202.600 +/-0.000   1472.046 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.251
1013              -220.926 +/-0.000   1466.491 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        140.356
1014              -220.517 +/-0.000   1467.792 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         38.887
1015              -208.826 +/-0.000   1474.479 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.224
1016              -206.843 +/-0.000   1473.429 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.334
1017              -198.143 +/-0.000   1466.476 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.559
1018              -198.087 +/-0.000   1468.601 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.237
1019              -218.430 +/-0.000   1465.087 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.135
1020              -220.503 +/-0.000   1466.951 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.139
1021              -215.192 +/-0.000   1477.482 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.205
1022              -213.105 +/-0.000   1476.842 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.218
1023              -202.846 +/-0.000   1470.445 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.233
1024              -201.157 +/-0.000   1470.841 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.251
1025              -202.028 +/-0.000   1471.623 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.238
1026              -204.861 +/-0.000   1472.722 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.235
1027              -204.281 +/-0.000   1472.424 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.242
1028              -201.603 +/-0.000   1470.772 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.243
1029              -205.378 +/-0.000   1473.428 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.243
1030              -207.078 +/-0.000   1474.806 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.245
1                 -201.558 +/-0.000   1464.703 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         12.321
2                 -204.145 +/-0.000   1470.478 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        130.374
3                 -219.788 +/-0.000   1467.220 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         22.949
4                 -208.894 +/-0.000   1472.409 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        131.836
5                 -199.732 +/-0.000   1467.536 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000          1.904
6                 -218.498 +/-0.000   1469.164 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        122.449
7                 -214.344 +/-0.000   1475.831 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        110.063
8                 -205.725 +/-0.000   1467.329 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        152.714
9                 -204.547 +/-0.000   1469.036 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        119.585
10                -204.906 +/-0.000   1469.223 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        140.236
11                -209.176 +/-0.000   1471.951 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        158.467
Punti di Dettaglio
1001              -201.835 +/-0.009   1473.177 +/-0.009    0.012       0.002         49.488
1002              -226.145 +/-0.006   1492.575 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         49.512
1005              -242.438 +/-0.006   1472.152 +/-0.006    0.008       0.001         49.890
1006              -194.006 +/-0.011   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.015       0.003         49.440
1007              -209.859 +/-0.006   1451.279 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         51.999
1008              -213.091 +/-0.007   1453.344 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.221
12                -214.466 +/-0.032   1463.786 +/-0.034    0.046       0.008         48.691
13                -213.240 +/-0.034   1465.732 +/-0.034    0.048       0.002         50.456

Provo a indagare e ti faccio sapere se riesco a capire il motivo di questa stranezza. Del resto sui risultati di Pregeo di stranezze ne abbiamo già viste parecchie, se vuoi farti un’idea, guarda questo seminario gratuito sul sito www.corsigeometri.it:

geom. Gianni Rossi
Via B. Sacchi, 9
36061 - Bassano del Grappa (VI)
Responsabile corsi online del Collegio Geometri e G.L. di Padova
cell. 3202896417
Email: gianni.rossi@corsigeometri.it
www.corsigeometri.it
www.topgeometri.it

gionata-laudani · 18 Maggio 2022, 8:30pm

gianni-rossi:

8|PF08/0080/D107|-399.753000|1605.089000|50|INCROCI MAPPALI 304 392 311|
manca la quota qui
8|PF14/0070/D107|-336.450000|803.323000|50|SPIGOLO RECINZIONE IN CLS|
**8|PF14/0070/D107|71.259000|04|PIANO SUPERIORE MURETTA DI RECINZIONE|**

Devi intervenire nel modulo della TAF

Qesto punto è al limite della tolleranza PDOP

Inoltre sarebbe opportuno scegliere il punto base all’interno della maglia fiduciale.

gionata-laudani · 18 Maggio 2022, 8:40pm

Cosa significa |S| ???
Forse bisognava scrivere |* S*| cioè “misura STRUMENTALE” [ ho dovuto inserire uno spazio, altrimenti non mi inserisce (*)]

luca-cecchetto · 19 Maggio 2022, 6:42am

Libretto Originale_ Anno=2022 Protocollo=4 [S].pdf (8,0 KB)
Risultati_ Diagnostici,Coordinate, Quote e Parametri d’Errore.pdf (15,2 KB)

luca-cecchetto · 19 Maggio 2022, 6:43am

Grazie per le risposte, questo libretto gira, non mi dà errore ma sqm e semiassi 0.00…

gianni-rossi · 19 Maggio 2022, 11:05am

Ciao Luca,
per prima cosa dovremmo cercare di operare esattamente con lo stesso libretto, ma purtroppo anche quello che hai postato su PDF è troncato nelle righe 2 dei PF:

Dovresti quindi postarlo nuovamente qui seguendo le indicazioni che ti avevo dato nel mio post precedente, cioè: fai il copia incolla delle righe originali, poi le selezioni tutte con il mouse e clicchi l’icona:

così le righe rimangono complete e non vanno accapo. Ti dico questo perché, cercando di completare le righe troncate, a me il tuo libretto diventa questo:

0|270422|4|D107|0080|985,991,997|CECCHETTO LUCA|GEOMETRA|VICENZA|
9|47|10|20|1450|PREGEO 10.00-G,APAG 2.12|MC|Nota: |
1|1000|4373545.480,878921.810,4543605.430|0.000|[WGS84-ETRF2000]|
6|L2|27042022-12:32|27042002-12:32|RTK|PDOP=2|
2|100|8392.002,12581.369,-10708.908|0.000060200,0.000008944,0.000016429,0.000020117,0.000015761,0.000072916,2.070380688|PDOP=2|0.000|CHIODO|
2|PF08/0080/D107|8504.383,12740.568,-10850.743|0.000089313,0.000011752,0.000044574,0.000022479,0.000016295,0.000095640,2.140214920|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|PF14/0070/D107|8621.133,11946.694,-10804.535|0.000207576,0.000072597,0.000200142,0.000045079,0.000079787,0.000232734,1.536174893|PDOP=5|0.000|
2|1001|8396.323,12588.784,-10714.722|0.000074377,0.000015819,0.000065012,0.000020629,0.000019199,0.000093773,2.117601633|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1002|8409.559,12611.177,-10731.771|0.000073623,0.000015465,0.000064022,0.000020518,0.000018735,0.000092527,1.494913220|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1003|8402.386,12574.190,-10717.366|0.000221088,-0.000061603,0.000087278,0.000076105,0.000019015,0.000106334,1.692195415|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1004|8407.564,12580.918,-10723.531|0.000136211,0.000002080,0.000091292,0.000021167,0.000009291,0.000100236,2.613799572|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1005|8424.616,12593.334,-10743.510|0.000065814,0.000009428,0.000049596,0.000019196,0.000010417,0.000072138,1.320992589|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1006|8392.157,12581.612,-10709.127|0.000164773,0.000006017,0.000157501,0.000021016,0.000014091,0.000223734,1.952832222|PDOP=4|0.000|
2|1007|8406.289,12568.433,-10720.240|0.000059424,0.000007424,0.000037313,0.000010693,0.000003707,0.000058588,1.549226522|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1008|8408.146,12570.905,-10722.509|0.000078723,0.000007757,0.000045775,0.000010701,0.000003825,0.000062378,1.628624678|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1009|8396.437,12578.636,-10712.651|0.000078512,0.000005933,0.000054771,0.000011849,-0.000003459,0.000104894,2.338360310|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1010|8395.482,12580.453,-10711.974|0.000077540,0.000005894,0.000054307,0.000011865,-0.000003668,0.000105724,2.075972795|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1011|8397.958,12588.328,-10716.001|0.000085544,0.000021948,0.000054736,0.000022748,0.000015506,0.000082554,1.965470076|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1012|8397.262,12587.816,-10715.064|0.000069327,0.000009900,0.000042563,0.000013389,0.000006314,0.000074495,1.560443044|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1013|8411.223,12584.916,-10727.846|0.000098932,0.000008576,0.000035974,0.000017005,0.000005516,0.000081213,4.640303612|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1014|8410.678,12586.134,-10727.566|0.000064210,0.000007715,0.000035435,0.000011339,0.000000969,0.000066740,2.019888878|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1015|8401.189,12591.074,-10719.383|0.000076819,0.000020396,0.000051653,0.000022160,0.000016319,0.000096114,1.552555561|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1016|8399.781,12589.723,-10718.227|0.000076581,0.000020369,0.000051595,0.000022154,0.000016396,0.000096820,2.902915001|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|PF02/0080/D107|8325.553,12489.730,-10626.644|0.000177753,-0.000000750,-0.000101433,0.000032096,0.000079647,0.000541808,1.178607464|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1017|8395.208,12581.732,-10711.958|0.000061536,0.000009820,-0.000013716,0.000017644,0.000004252,0.000138169,1.784027934|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1018|8394.772,12583.812,-10711.902|0.000061565,0.000009724,-0.000013794,0.000017639,0.000004346,0.000138673,2.052170277|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1019|8409.757,12583.195,-10726.089|0.000282558,-0.000032825,0.000081540,0.000025240,-0.000006311,0.000069564,1.278252006|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1020|8410.865,12585.314,-10727.522|0.000280706,-0.000032403,0.000081715,0.000025105,-0.000006205,0.000069693,1.301425457|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1021|8405.057,12594.900,-10723.849|0.000076184,0.000015276,0.000035044,0.000019574,0.000008353,0.000055882,1.505292177|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1022|8403.714,12593.982,-10722.394|0.000076151,0.000015438,0.000035001,0.000019679,0.000008626,0.000056118,1.313585401|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1023|8397.767,12586.284,-10715.214|0.000096517,0.000047341,0.000074253,0.000068800,0.000072147,0.000181873,1.062968016|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1024|8396.501,12586.437,-10714.037|0.000076279,0.000016337,0.000037871,0.000020754,0.000015873,0.000114310,2.004049540|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1025|8397.057,12587.345,-10714.545|0.000137237,0.000061336,0.000102054,0.000055224,0.000047851,0.000111696,2.875049591|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1026|8398.780,12588.806,-10716.579|0.000136847,0.000061317,0.000100986,0.000055501,0.000047325,0.000110292,1.754263759|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1027|8398.226,12588.392,-10716.387|0.000064380,0.000002321,0.000028029,0.000015873,0.000020127,0.000096127,2.144035816|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1028|8396.833,12586.433,-10714.343|0.000051869,0.000004394,0.000027751,0.000015534,0.000020203,0.000095947,2.884444475|PDOP=2|0.000|
2|1029|8398.760,12589.520,-10717.197|0.000065317,0.000002966,0.000029925,0.000015656,0.000019984,0.000095162,2.153017521|PDOP=3|0.000|
2|1030|8399.691,12591.109,-10718.379|0.000065435,0.000003049,0.000030159,0.000015624,0.000019959,0.000095008,2.084317684|PDOP=3|0.000|
4|1010|1009|-50|*S*|
5|1|3.420|0.000|
4|1009|1|0|
5|1|2.914|0.000|
4|1012|1011|50|*S*|
5|2|2.201|0.000|
4|1011|2|0|
5|2|1.963|0.000|
4|1014|1013|50|*S*|
5|3|0.926|0.000|
4|1013|3|0|
5|3|1.351|0.000|
4|1016|1015|50|*S*|
5|4|2.290|0.000|
4|1015|4|0|
5|4|2.071|0.000|
4|1018|1017|-50|*S*|
5|5|1.960|0.000|
4|1017|5|0|
5|5|1.910|0.000|
4|1020|1019|50|*S*|
5|6|2.986|0.000|
4|1019|6|0|
5|6|4.077|0.000|
4|1022|1021|50|*S*|
5|7|1.599|0.000|
4|1021|7|0|
5|7|1.856|0.000|
4|1024|1023|50|*S*|
5|8|5.762|0.000|
4|1023|8|0|
5|8|4.242|0.000|
4|1026|1025|-50|*S*|
5|9|3.699|0.000|
4|1025|9|0|
5|9|3.611|0.000|
4|1028|1027|50|*S*|
5|10|3.648|0.000|
4|1027|10|0|
5|10|3.262|0.000|
4|1030|1029|-50|*S*|
5|11|3.543|0.000|
4|1029|11|0|
5|11|4.075|0.000|
4|1003|1004|0|*S* Allineamento facciata fabbr.|
5|12|10.49|-0.6|Spigolo fabbricato|
5|13|10.49|-2.90|Spigolo fabbricato|
7|10|1003|1004|12|13|6|7|11|4|10|9|RC|
7|4|9|8|1|1003|RC|
7|2|1007|1008|NC|
7|2|1002|1005|NC|
8|PF02/0080/D107|-70.911000|1385.762000|52|SPIGOLO NORD-EST FABBRICATO|
8|PF02/0080/D107|73.038000|04|QUOTA MARCIAPIEDE|
8|PF14/0070/D107|-336.450000|803.323000|50|SPIGOLO RECINZIONE IN CLS|
8|PF14/0070/D107|71.259000|04|PIANO SUPERIORE MURETTA DI RECINZIONE|
8|PF08/0080/D107|-399.753000|1605.089000|50|INCROCI MAPPALI 304 392 311|
8|PF08/0080/D107|43.471000|04|2004122136 PIANO DI PARAGONE QUOTA BASE MURETTA|

Sicuramente ha qualcosa di diverso dal tuo perché elaborandolo, oltre a darmi sempre l’errore ATTENZIONE il PF08/0080/D107 e’ stato rilevato altimetricamente ma non è definito altimetrico nella TAF (lo dà anche a te?), trovo risultati leggermente diversi dai tuoi.

Questi sono i tuoi:

Questi sono i miei:

Al di là di queste differenze (che, come detto, sarebbe opportuno eliminare), penso che il problema sia causato dai PF e/o dalla TAF perché vedo che la misurata PF08-PF02 ha una differenza di ben 14 metri rispetto alla TAF, sia nella tua elaborazione che nella mia:

Ti dico questo perché, se dal libretto elimino i PF (tolgo le righe 8 finali e li rinomino nelle righe 2 togliendo “PF”), il libretto diventa completamente locale (non riferito alla TAF) e gli sqm ed ellissi vengono segnalati e, come vedi qui sotto, sono mostruosi:

Questi valori abnormi potrebbero significare due cose:

Il tuo rilievo è effettivamente sbagliato. Ma tenderei ad escluderlo perché calcolandolo in locale (cioè senza riferimento ai PF) con il mio software Geocat non vedo alcuna anomalia (vedi tabella che segue). Anzi, non compaiono nemmeno gli sqm perché non hai iperdeterminato i punti.

I risultati di Pregeo, per quanto riguarda sqm ed ellissi, sono sballati, come del resto avviene quando il primo punto (riga 2) inserito dopo le righe 1-6 della base è troppo vicino alla base stessa (lo puoi vedere dal seminario gratuito che ti ho segnalato sul post precedente). Ma questo non è il tuo caso perché tu hai lasciato la base NRTK originaria distante 18 km dall’oggetto del rilievo (come diceva Gionata, andrebbe invece portata sempre in locale come VRS).

Oltretutto, in quest’ultima elaborazione con Pregeo (senza i PF e con base GPS distante) riemerge un’altra anomalia che avevamo già avuto modo di discutere qui sul forum, e cioè le coordinate della base NRTK che, trattandosi di un calcolo locale, dovrebbero essere esattamente Est = 0.000 e Nord = 0.000, mentre invece, come vedi sopra, in Pregeo risultano rispettivamente di 35 e 50 cm.

Continuerò a indagare per cercare di scoprire questa ennesima stranezza di Pregeo.

gionata-laudani · 19 Maggio 2022, 12:57pm

Come mai inizi il rilievo alle ore 12:32 e poi termini il rilievo alle ore 12:32?
Vedi di correggere anche l’orario.

luca-cecchetto · 19 Maggio 2022, 1:26pm

Il problema sta nei punti nascosti righe 4-5 le ho eliminate e l’elaborazione non da problemi neppure sui pf…andrò a battere gli spigoli con la stazione totale a questo punto.
l’orario di lettura deriva dal rover dello strumento non penso sia errato…

gianni-rossi · 19 Maggio 2022, 8:08pm

Ciao Luca,
ho capito quello che fa Pregeo, ed è l’ennesima “stranezza” (eufemismo per non usare termini più pesanti), vedi sotto. I tuoi allineamenti per intersezione (quelli che tu chiami “punti nascosti”) sono del tutto corretti, infatti sono ormai diverse le case produttrici di strumenti GPS che li codificano in quel modo, e io stesso ne ho elaborati molti con Pregeo. Prendi il primo, ad esempio:

È corretto e infatti Pregeo non ti dà nessun errore, così come non lo dà nemmeno su tutti gli altri.

Cos’è che fa allora il nostro caro Pregeo?

Per capirlo bisogna operare per gradi.

Togliamo dal libretto tutte le righe 4 e 5 degli allineamenti per intersezione, l’elaborazione non fa una piega e gli sqm/ellissi sono nella norma:

Punti della Rete
nome                  nord    sqm         est     sqm   semiasseMax semiasseMin inclinazione
1000             14924.902 +/-0.006  -9246.879 +/-0.004    0.007       0.000        139.266
PF08/0080/D107    -393.790 +/-0.010   1601.111 +/-0.011    0.011       0.010         39.288
PF02/0080/D107     -76.876 +/-0.012   1389.741 +/-0.012    0.012       0.012        139.387
PF14/0070/D107    -333.204 +/-0.011    799.666 +/-0.012    0.013       0.010         35.820
100               -193.712 +/-0.015   1466.743 +/-0.016    0.017       0.013         39.255
Punti di Dettaglio
1001              -201.835 +/-0.010   1473.177 +/-0.009    0.011       0.007         59.301
1002              -226.145 +/-0.008   1492.575 +/-0.006    0.008       0.006         96.916
1003              -205.911 +/-0.014   1457.683 +/-0.017    0.021       0.007         41.738
1004              -214.786 +/-0.013   1463.278 +/-0.014    0.018       0.008         48.711
1005              -242.438 +/-0.008   1472.152 +/-0.006    0.008       0.006        113.897
1006              -194.006 +/-0.012   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.014       0.007         54.763
1007              -209.859 +/-0.008   1451.279 +/-0.006    0.008       0.006         99.804
1008              -213.091 +/-0.009   1453.344 +/-0.007    0.009       0.007         82.900
1009              -199.059 +/-0.013   1463.200 +/-0.011    0.016       0.007         59.388
1010              -198.168 +/-0.012   1465.167 +/-0.010    0.014       0.007         61.525
1011              -203.813 +/-0.011   1472.412 +/-0.009    0.012       0.007         61.501
1012              -202.598 +/-0.009   1472.044 +/-0.007    0.009       0.007         79.265
1013              -220.924 +/-0.028   1466.490 +/-0.027    0.038       0.010         51.249
1014              -220.515 +/-0.011   1467.791 +/-0.009    0.012       0.007         63.524
1015              -208.824 +/-0.010   1474.478 +/-0.008    0.010       0.007         69.942
1016              -206.841 +/-0.016   1473.427 +/-0.014    0.020       0.008         54.877
1017              -198.142 +/-0.016   1466.475 +/-0.014    0.019       0.008         55.177
1018              -198.085 +/-0.018   1468.600 +/-0.016    0.023       0.008         54.294
1019              -218.429 +/-0.011   1465.086 +/-0.011    0.014       0.007         47.528
1020              -220.502 +/-0.011   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.014       0.007         47.419
1021              -215.190 +/-0.009   1477.481 +/-0.007    0.009       0.007         75.343
1022              -213.104 +/-0.008   1476.841 +/-0.006    0.008       0.006         93.369
1023              -202.845 +/-0.009   1470.444 +/-0.008    0.010       0.007         61.693
1024              -201.155 +/-0.013   1470.839 +/-0.012    0.016       0.007         55.656
1025              -202.026 +/-0.017   1471.622 +/-0.015    0.021       0.008         55.489
1026              -204.859 +/-0.011   1472.721 +/-0.009    0.013       0.007         62.340
1027              -204.279 +/-0.013   1472.423 +/-0.013    0.016       0.008         49.719
1028              -201.601 +/-0.016   1470.771 +/-0.016    0.021       0.008         49.004
1029              -205.377 +/-0.013   1473.426 +/-0.013    0.016       0.008         49.848
1030              -207.077 +/-0.012   1474.804 +/-0.012    0.016       0.007         50.140

Come vedi, però, Pregeo divide i risultati in due sezioni: Punti della Rete e Punti di Dettaglio. In questo primo calcolo, tra i Punti della Rete mette:

la base GPS;
i PF;
il primo punto (riga 2) che trova dopo le righe 1-6 della base (quello che, se troppo vicino alla base stessa, gli fa produrre sqm/ellissi da km).

Bene, adesso inseriamo le righe 4 e 5 del primo allineamento:

....
2|1030|8399.691,12591.109,-10718.379|0.000065435,0.000003049,0.000030159,0.000015624,0.000019959,0.000095008,2.084317684|PDOP=3|0.000|
4|1010|1009|-50|*S*|
5|1|3.420|0.000|
4|1009|1|0|
5|1|2.914|0.000|
7|10|1003|1004|12|13|6|7|11|4|10|9|RC|
....

L’elaborazione diventa quella seguente:

Punti della Rete
nome                  nord    sqm         est     sqm   semiasseMax semiasseMin inclinazione
1000             14924.902 +/-0.000  -9246.879 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.214
PF08/0080/D107    -393.790 +/-0.000   1601.111 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        147.208
PF02/0080/D107     -76.876 +/-0.000   1389.741 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        140.899
PF14/0070/D107    -333.204 +/-0.000    799.666 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         31.960
100               -193.712 +/-0.000   1466.743 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.256
1009              -199.060 +/-0.000   1463.201 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.287
1010              -198.169 +/-0.000   1465.168 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.429
1                 -201.558 +/-0.000   1464.703 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         12.425
Punti di Dettaglio
1001              -201.835 +/-0.009   1473.177 +/-0.009    0.012       0.002         49.488
1002              -226.145 +/-0.006   1492.575 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         49.512
1003              -205.911 +/-0.013   1457.683 +/-0.017    0.022       0.002         41.342
1004              -214.786 +/-0.012   1463.278 +/-0.014    0.018       0.003         46.544
1005              -242.438 +/-0.006   1472.152 +/-0.006    0.008       0.001         49.890
1006              -194.006 +/-0.011   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.015       0.003         49.440
1007              -209.859 +/-0.006   1451.279 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         51.999
1008              -213.091 +/-0.007   1453.344 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.221
1011              -203.813 +/-0.010   1472.412 +/-0.009    0.013       0.002         52.272
1012              -202.598 +/-0.007   1472.044 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.809
1013              -220.924 +/-0.028   1466.490 +/-0.027    0.038       0.007         50.632
1014              -220.515 +/-0.010   1467.791 +/-0.009    0.013       0.002         52.910
1015              -208.824 +/-0.008   1474.478 +/-0.008    0.011       0.002         52.121
1016              -206.841 +/-0.015   1473.427 +/-0.014    0.021       0.003         52.112
1017              -198.142 +/-0.015   1466.475 +/-0.014    0.020       0.003         52.161
1018              -198.085 +/-0.017   1468.600 +/-0.016    0.023       0.004         52.137
1019              -218.429 +/-0.010   1465.086 +/-0.011    0.015       0.002         44.608
1020              -220.502 +/-0.010   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.015       0.002         44.612
1021              -215.190 +/-0.008   1477.481 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.824
1022              -213.104 +/-0.007   1476.841 +/-0.006    0.009       0.002         51.795
1023              -202.845 +/-0.008   1470.444 +/-0.008    0.011       0.002         48.037
1024              -201.155 +/-0.012   1470.839 +/-0.012    0.017       0.003         51.344
1025              -202.026 +/-0.016   1471.622 +/-0.015    0.022       0.004         52.944
1026              -204.859 +/-0.010   1472.721 +/-0.009    0.013       0.002         53.020
1027              -204.279 +/-0.012   1472.423 +/-0.013    0.017       0.003         46.944
1028              -201.601 +/-0.015   1470.771 +/-0.016    0.022       0.004         47.394
1029              -205.377 +/-0.012   1473.426 +/-0.013    0.017       0.003         46.968
1030              -207.077 +/-0.011   1474.804 +/-0.012    0.016       0.003         46.972

I punti generatori dell’allineamento per intersezione, 1009 e 1010, più il punto 1 generato, vengono spostati anche loro tra i Punti della Rete (ma che rete è?) e, a seguito di questo passaggio di grado, tutti i punti della rete mostrano improvvisamente un’attendibilità perfetta (sqm/ellissi tutti a zero), mentre invece i poveri Punti di Dettaglio rimangono con i loro sqm/ellissi.

Proseguiamo a inseire anche le righe 4 e 5 del secondo allineamento per intersezione (quindi ora ne abbiamo due):

....
2|1030|8399.691,12591.109,-10718.379|0.000065435,0.000003049,0.000030159,0.000015624,0.000019959,0.000095008,2.084317684|PDOP=3|0.000|
4|1010|1009|-50|*S*|
5|1|3.420|0.000|
4|1009|1|0|
5|1|2.914|0.000|
4|1012|1011|50|*S*|
5|2|2.201|0.000|
4|1011|2|0|
5|2|1.963|0.000|
7|10|1003|1004|12|13|6|7|11|4|10|9|RC|
....

L’elaborazione a questo punto è:

Punti della Rete
nome                  nord    sqm         est     sqm   semiasseMax semiasseMin inclinazione
1000             14924.902 +/-0.000  -9246.879 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.215
PF08/0080/D107    -393.790 +/-0.000   1601.111 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        156.852
PF02/0080/D107     -76.876 +/-0.000   1389.741 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        150.211
PF14/0070/D107    -333.204 +/-0.000    799.666 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         30.701
100               -193.712 +/-0.000   1466.743 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.256
1009              -199.060 +/-0.000   1463.201 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.300
1010              -198.169 +/-0.000   1465.168 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        139.487
1011              -203.814 +/-0.000   1472.413 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.252
1012              -202.600 +/-0.000   1472.046 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         39.253
1                 -201.558 +/-0.000   1464.703 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000         12.411
2                 -204.145 +/-0.000   1470.478 +/-0.000    0.000       0.000        130.408
Punti di Dettaglio
1001              -201.835 +/-0.009   1473.177 +/-0.009    0.012       0.002         49.488
1002              -226.145 +/-0.006   1492.575 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         49.512
1003              -205.911 +/-0.013   1457.683 +/-0.017    0.022       0.002         41.342
1004              -214.786 +/-0.012   1463.278 +/-0.014    0.018       0.003         46.544
1005              -242.438 +/-0.006   1472.152 +/-0.006    0.008       0.001         49.890
1006              -194.006 +/-0.011   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.015       0.003         49.440
1007              -209.859 +/-0.006   1451.279 +/-0.006    0.009       0.001         51.999
1008              -213.091 +/-0.007   1453.344 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.221
1013              -220.924 +/-0.028   1466.490 +/-0.027    0.038       0.007         50.632
1014              -220.515 +/-0.010   1467.791 +/-0.009    0.013       0.002         52.910
1015              -208.824 +/-0.008   1474.478 +/-0.008    0.011       0.002         52.121
1016              -206.841 +/-0.015   1473.427 +/-0.014    0.021       0.003         52.112
1017              -198.142 +/-0.015   1466.475 +/-0.014    0.020       0.003         52.161
1018              -198.085 +/-0.017   1468.600 +/-0.016    0.023       0.004         52.137
1019              -218.429 +/-0.010   1465.086 +/-0.011    0.015       0.002         44.608
1020              -220.502 +/-0.010   1466.950 +/-0.011    0.015       0.002         44.612
1021              -215.190 +/-0.008   1477.481 +/-0.007    0.010       0.002         51.824
1022              -213.104 +/-0.007   1476.841 +/-0.006    0.009       0.002         51.795
1023              -202.845 +/-0.008   1470.444 +/-0.008    0.011       0.002         48.037
1024              -201.155 +/-0.012   1470.839 +/-0.012    0.017       0.003         51.344
1025              -202.026 +/-0.016   1471.622 +/-0.015    0.022       0.004         52.944
1026              -204.859 +/-0.010   1472.721 +/-0.009    0.013       0.002         53.020
1027              -204.279 +/-0.012   1472.423 +/-0.013    0.017       0.003         46.944
1028              -201.601 +/-0.015   1470.771 +/-0.016    0.022       0.004         47.394
1029              -205.377 +/-0.012   1473.426 +/-0.013    0.017       0.003         46.968
1030              -207.077 +/-0.011   1474.804 +/-0.012    0.016       0.003         46.972

Cioè, anche i punti generatori dell’allineamento per intersezione, 1011 e 1012, più il punto 2 generato, vengono promossi a Punti della Rete e, come tali, mostrano sqm/ellissi a zero.

Se prosegui man mano a inserire tutti gli allineamenti per intersezione (come nel tuo libretto originario), i punti vengono tutti promossi a Punti della Rete e gli sqm/ellissi vanno tutti a zero.

Interessante no?
Per avere da Pregeo un risultato perfetto, basta che tutti i punti GPS siano anche generatori di allineamenti per intersezione!!!

luca-cecchetto · 20 Maggio 2022, 6:52am

Ciao Gianni, è proprio una stranezza…se non altro abbiamo svelato l’arcano !!
Grazie!